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Spitfire Kage
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Ninja Profile Main Class: Vanguard Secondary Class: Medical Sensei:
| Subject: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:04 am | |
| Yeah... so here I go.
My idea towards approaching this shit is simple. In fact, its simplicity is so simply astounding that it can be summarized in two words.
Word. Quests.
Here's the shit. Restricted jutsu are restricted because they're over-used. Spammed. And generally, abused the shit out of, till we have no choice but to ban or severely limit their use.
So I figured that the best way to around that problem is WQ and limit the number of people who can obtain it via WQ.
For example, lets take Rasengan. It is a very complicated jutsu which ranks among the highest in difficulty to learn. So I suggest, we make learning Rasengan a WQ. You first learn the first stage. Then the second stage. And finally the third stage. Then a little bit more to master it completely. So lets say... 1k for each of those making it a total of 4k.
Now anyone can do 4k. A monkey with a keyboard could type four key by smashing his fingers on it. But we can't let everyone have it. After all, we restricted it for a reason. With that in mind, we limit the number of people who can obtain it via the WQ. Lets say, two people.
Now anyone else who wants this technique must learn it from those two. But those two people who are learning it by themselves can't be idiots, or lower ranked ninja, to be able to recreate the Rasengan. So lets say, that they need a certain amount of chakra and [insert stat of your liking] to learn this technique.
Say, jounin level stats. So 10 of each of the two. Now the person learning, must also meet that requirement before being able to learn it from the first two [WQ recipients]. Thus, we manage to keep restricted jutsu just that. Restricted. Though thats just my idea. Its a rough sketch of what I had in mind. So feel free to suggest some shit to improve. Also point out the drawbacks to this if you find any.
Also remember, that this example was given using Rasengan as the jutsu in question. If the jutsu is an S-rank elemental technique, then to either recreate it or learn it, one must do the elemental god training. And higher stats. And some other shit like that. You get the idea. So... whats your verdict?
1. Hell yeah! [Note that it doesn't mean accepting it like it is. It means the system is accepted and will be worked upon.]
2. Fuck no! [Note, this means what it says. Fuck no!]
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Kazumi Akatsuki
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Ninja Profile Main Class: Sensor Secondary Class: Seal Master Sensei: Students: Hakushin, Suno, Soul
| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:16 am | |
| I like this idea but 4k for Rasengan? I'd say 2k at best, and the same for chidori, considering it can only be obtainable by a limited number of people and once someone does it, no one else can. | |
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Spitfire Kage
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Ninja Profile Main Class: Vanguard Secondary Class: Medical Sensei:
| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:18 am | |
| Then vote. Don't just say post. Vote as well. Also, it was just an example. We can decide the limits at a later date. At the moment, we are deciding the system. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:22 am | |
| I think this idea. I mean they are restricted but I don't think it is actually said how one can obtain oneofhte restricted techniques. So, I'm all this idea. Even though, it would provide some more work for us to set up. after it is done. It should be easy to handle. |
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Saitou Hajime Legendary Sannin
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| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:25 pm | |
| I still want some jutsu BANNED. IE: Izanagi. Some jutsu are just too overpowered. | |
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Kazumi Akatsuki
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| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:17 pm | |
| No, screw that Izanagi's not even as OP as you say, it's only being thought of being banned because someone is close to getting it. And it has a perfect drawback, they go blind in a damn eye. Plus I thought this assignment was for the GMs O_o | |
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Saitou Hajime Legendary Sannin
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| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:34 pm | |
| Going Blind in one eye is not that bad and you know it Kazumi so don't give me that BS like that is such a drawback. They'll lose and eye and then get another one transplanted in. And explain how Izanagi is not OP? Being able to dodge ANY attack no matter the speed, damage, range, or ANYTHING. How the heck is that not OP?? Hmmm??? NO ONE will be getting Izanagi. Simple as that. And for anyone who wasted time trying to obtain it I'm sorry for them. | |
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Kazumi Akatsuki
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| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:08 am | |
| - Saitou Hajime wrote:
- Going Blind in one eye is not that bad and you know it Kazumi so don't give me that BS like that is such a drawback. They'll lose and eye and then get another one transplanted in. And explain how Izanagi is not OP? Being able to dodge ANY attack no matter the speed, damage, range, or ANYTHING. How the heck is that not OP?? Hmmm??? NO ONE will be getting Izanagi. Simple as that. And for anyone who wasted time trying to obtain it I'm sorry for them.
Actually its not your call and losing a whole fucking eye is a huge drawback O_o especially to someone used to fighting with both eyes. So what the fuck do you mean losing an eye ain't anything? Plus getting another transplanted is circumstantial and there are hardly any Uchiha on the site to begin with so screw that argument. And Again Idk how you're thinking Izanagi will be used, but its hardly OP in use with RP. Its fundamentally a substitution, so screw that bs argument. And last but not least, its not your call if its allowed or not. | |
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Spitfire Kage
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Ninja Profile Main Class: Vanguard Secondary Class: Medical Sensei:
| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:41 am | |
| Calm the fuck down, ladies. o_o;
If y'all feel like dropping your pants and comparing, feel free to do so. Just not in this thread. Take it to the Pf section. Or take it to Pms.
We're not deciding on the jutsu at the moment. We're simply deciding the system. I said that before, and I don't like repeating myself. So don't make me, nigga.
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Suno Genin
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| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:11 am | |
| Hmmmmm...
Well compromise is a good method.
Here is how I see iza going.....
1. Its not an attack that insta kills like amatsu 2. It isnt super fast to kill like kirin 3. It can dodge any attack once...that isnt so bad...I mean really to me dodging any move once...not terrible
Saitou is worried about its play style...well why not amp it up
1. You must have mankeyou duh 2. You lose an eye...that also means loss of tsuki or loss of amatsu 3. Once you lose it, its gone for good, you can transplant, but you lose the other eye not the tranplanted one... And transplanting a iza eye means no ems for joo ever..
Seems like reasonable loss for a escapegoat | |
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Casus Chunin
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| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:17 am | |
| Okay, voting is fine and dandy. But make sure all of you work out the full system as a group. After all word-quests are one of my departments specifically. Now, check this out. If you are gonna make them, follow the format please. Name, Word-Count, Obtaining Story(The adventure basically.), Ability of the Jutsu. Simple. Thats all I have to say. And all that junk. | |
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Xin Li Legendary Sannin
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| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:42 am | |
| More word quest? fuuuuuuck. Why not just limit the shit to how many peocple can have this or that. I mean for peep sake. I'm not the only one who doesn't have time or may not be capble of doing WQ. I think it's fine for WQ, but the thing is not everyone is a quanity rpger. I mean I know I am not the best, but I actually think I shine more in a quality of how I rpg. and for everyone who can pretty much bs 1k it's kinda like damn what about the ones who can't produce that many words, but instead are capable of producing one with nice quality. | |
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Casus Chunin
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| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:55 am | |
| WQ do not follow quality. Trust me. Its easy to do 1k words. 100 words a day at least. If you follow something like this you will eventually accomplish your goal. It is all the matter of being lazy. Anyone can ramble on in a post. | |
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Xin Li Legendary Sannin
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| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:03 am | |
| Very well. I think I can give it a shot. | |
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Kazumi Akatsuki
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| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:03 pm | |
| Erm...Izanagi doesn't require Mangekyou, just Senju + Uchiha DNA. | |
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Saitou Hajime Legendary Sannin
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| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:00 pm | |
| Thats part of the amp up Kazumi. I'm fine with all of those Suno. If those were added in to the use of Izanagi then I would be on bored to let people have it. My last concern would be that once you lose that eye you cannot have another Sharingan transplanted into it. If that is allowed they could just keep learning the technique and replacing the lost eyes o.o | |
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Kazumi Akatsuki
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| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:09 pm | |
| - Saitou Hajime wrote:
- Thats part of the amp up Kazumi. I'm fine with all of those Suno. If those were added in to the use of Izanagi then I would be on bored to let people have it. My last concern would be that once you lose that eye you cannot have another Sharingan transplanted into it. If that is allowed they could just keep learning the technique and replacing the lost eyes o.o
The technique itself isn't all that powerful to have all these restrictions. Its usable without Mangekyou as seen in the show, and it only requires Senju and Uchiha DNA to balance out the Ying-Yang Chakra. Now with having another transplant, I believe you can only have 1 transplant regardless, plus like I said its circumstantial because who says the person can get another eye? Uchiha are heavily limited on this site, and most are inactive so I don't even see that as being a problem. | |
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Hisoka Setsuna Akatsuki
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| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:15 pm | |
| I reject all this simply because this was a Global Mod task. Noctis himself said we take care of it, and send it to him for review.. How this got in the Mod parliment is beyond me. | |
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Spitfire Kage
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| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:31 pm | |
| It got to the fucking mod parliament because you guys were too fucking slow and while Noctis was ranting about it on the chatbox I suggested this idea and he liked it and he told me to post it up. So take your attitude somewhere else. Like to the PMs, maybe one addressed to Noctis. | |
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Saitou Hajime Legendary Sannin
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| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:35 pm | |
| - Hisoka Setsuna wrote:
- I reject all this simply because this was a Global Mod task. Noctis himself said we take care of it, and send it to him for review.. How this got in the Mod parliment is beyond me.
Ok well let me explain a little bit to you. Devin wanted the GM's to do this but as Law said NONE of you stepped up to do it or at lwast not fast enough. Also he said when you guys to finished to send it to the ADMINS so WE can decide. So...yea. It is our job as admins to watch over the lower levels and make sure things are getting done so you can't exactly come in a "reject" anything. @Kazumi: As I have said time and time again just because it happened in the show does not make it transferable to RP so until you can come up with a better argument that does not involve the SHOW at all then maybe we can try and discuss and hash out the details. | |
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Hisoka Setsuna Akatsuki
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| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:39 pm | |
| We were supposed to send it WHEN it was done. The admins weren't supposed to have any input, other than checking over it. It was the whole point of Noctis giving the task to us. And plus, everyone sitting here bickering like bitches won't help shit. So ya'll keep on doing what you do. Kazumi and I will work on an actual list and post it in the GM parliment. | |
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Kazumi Akatsuki
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Ninja Profile Main Class: Sensor Secondary Class: Seal Master Sensei: Students: Hakushin, Suno, Soul
| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:44 pm | |
| - Saitou Hajime wrote:
- Hisoka Setsuna wrote:
- I reject all this simply because this was a Global Mod task. Noctis himself said we take care of it, and send it to him for review.. How this got in the Mod parliment is beyond me.
Ok well let me explain a little bit to you. Devin wanted the GM's to do this but as Law said NONE of you stepped up to do it or at lwast not fast enough. Also he said when you guys to finished to send it to the ADMINS so WE can decide. So...yea. It is our job as admins to watch over the lower levels and make sure things are getting done so you can't exactly come in a "reject" anything.
@Kazumi: As I have said time and time again just because it happened in the show does not make it transferable to RP so until you can come up with a better argument that does not involve the SHOW at all then maybe we can try and discuss and hash out the details. How about we make an RP BASED OFF THE SHOW like the show? Where you think all this shit is coming from, that's such a dumb argument. My argument is solid and has logic backing it, so I don't need a better argument. You need better logic as to how Izanagi is OP, and it isn't. Oh and Saitou we're above the Admins O_o So please let us handle our Assignment. Just because we're being Too slow in your opinion, doesn't give you the right to take it over. If we happen to Argue with each other then you can step in like Noctis says, but we were doing just fine. And we were supposed to send this to Noctis to review. - Quote :
Hey Global Mods.
So, I am gonna throw my breathe out on a limb here and try something old, but it will be new to this site.
I am going to give you authority over the Mods.
Now you have your own Parliament, so I suggest that you use it, but overall I am looking for people who will take leadership over the Mods.
Now there is a fine line between being a power abusing asshole and a leader.. no.. let me take that back. THERE IS A THICK LINE between those too
If they mess up in the chat, correct them. Wear your color with pride.
Now, what I don't want to happen is that you try and correct each other. There are Admin for that.
You are on equal level with each other, however you are above Admin. View user profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website | |
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Spitfire Kage
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| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:03 pm | |
| Look Tyler, you're cool and all, but its clear that you need to calm the fuck down. No one said this idea is finalized.
Now that you've calmed down (I'm assuming you have, though I don't give a shit either way), don't ever shit all over my idea like that again. For one. Its not my fault your shit isn't done yet. Two. If your shit gets done, do what you said, and post it in the G-Mod parliament. Three. Learn to respect someone else's work and if you can't, then refrain from posting at all.
That's all. | |
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Lord Victus Jounin
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| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:18 pm | |
| Gawd... I didn't even look over half this shit... nor do I want to.
So this is what we are going to do.
Admins.. DONT SAY SHIT
GM you make your list. Mods your make your list.
When you are both done, send it to the Admins and we will check it and pick and choose who we like best on certain jutsu.
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Casus Chunin
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| Subject: Re: Restricted Jutsu and shit. Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:08 am | |
| Mods get cracking on this. The GM are already way ahead of you in development. | |
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