no matter how hard i try it just doesnt seem to work. the person here to blame is me and i take the credit. i am sorry for whatever i put whoever through. i may stay or i may not it depends on how these next few days go. i am diabetic, i do work, and i rarely get on a laptop. Yet i am on the forum because i do like it and i do thinks its great because it stimulates the mind. But i am usually on the forum on a rumor 2 which has no java capabilities whatsoever. but, it doesnt matter. i guess we will see what happens from here.